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Drummond T9 "Greyhound" class 4-4-0 Tenders

photograph: Mike Morant collection

"Water cart" tender N°307 fitted to 30119 circa 1949.

photograph: Mike Morant collection

Six wheel K10 tender N°195 fitted to 30313 in June 1949.

T9 tenders might not be a straightforward topic, but they are far simpler to understand than the Bulleid Merchant Navy and light pacific ones! The thirtyone locos built by Dubs and the first twenty locos built at Nine Elms all had the same pattern of outside bearing six wheel tender carrying four tons of coal and 3,500 gallons of water. The final fifteen locos, with the wider cabs and splashers, were paired with five ton/4,000 gallon tenders running on two bogies fitted with inside bearings, known as the "water cart" tenders after the water carts that were used to spary the streets of the late nineteenth/early twentieth centuries. The similarity apparently being that the tenders leaked in the area of the bogie mountings and thus sprayed the track in the same manner as the road carts! Originally fitted with coal rails, these started to be plated over during Southern Railway days, though no accurate record of this appears to be available.

3,500 gallons was only just sufficient for the run from Waterloo to Bournemouth without taking water so in 1901 a number of the six wheel tenders were transferred to the new-build K10 class 4-4-0s and replace behind the T9s with brand new 4,000 gallon bogie "water cart" tenders, leaving just 23 locos with six wheel tenders. This last 23 locos were subsequently given "water cart" tenders from the L11 class 4-4-0s.

Following the formation of the Southern Railway in 1923 a number of T9s were allocated to the Central and Eastern sections. In 1925 ten went to the Eastern Section whose turntables were too short to accomodate T9s with "water cart" tenders, so the "water carts" were swapped for 3,500 gallon six wheelers from the 700 class 0-6-0s whilst the T9 "water carts" went to ten L11 class locos and the ten six wheeler L11 class tenders were fitted to the ten 700 class locos that had donated their tenders to the T9s! Then in 1928 a further six T9s were allocated to the Central Section with, once again, tenders being changed, this time in a straight swap with six K10 locos. Eventually the six-wheeled tender T9s returned to the Western section but in the main kept the six wheel tenders.

Information on specific loco/tender pairings prior to the mid-thirties is hard to come by. The table below sets out what is known but most of the tenders will most probably have been attached to the loco concerned since the change to the "water carts" from 1901, or since new in the case of the fifteen locos from N°300 to N°338:

T9 Tenders

Six and eight wheel tenders fitted.
LSWR/SR Engine N° 6 wheel tender 8 wheel tender 6 wheel tender
113 When built 8/06
114 When built 9/02
115 When built 8/04
116 When built 11/06
117 When built 12/02
118 When built 7/02
119 When built 10/04
120 When built 6/07
121 When built 8/02
122 When built 4/02
280 When built 10/03
281 When built 5/14 6/28
282 When built 6/02 7/28
283 When built 9/03
284 When built 3/07
285 When built 5/04
286 When built 6/02
287 When built 12/02
288 When built 6/02
289 When built 6/02
300 When built 5/25
301 When built
302 When built
303 When built 7/28
304 When built 2/25
305 When built
307 When built 7/25
310 When built 1/25
311 When built 5/25
312 When built 2/25
313 When built 8/25
314 When built 5/25
336 When built 7/25
337 When built
338 When built
702 When built 12/02
703 When built 10/06
704 When built 10/03 7/28
705 When built 11/02
706 When built 10/02
707 When built 12/06
708 When built 11/02
709 When built 5/04
710 When built 12/02
711 When built 11/02
712 When built 12/02
713 When built 11/02
714 When built 4/02
715 When built 8/03
716 When built 10/03
717 When built 9/02
718 When built 5/04
719 When built 11/02
721 When built 11/04
722 When built 7/07
723 When built 7/03
724 When built 10/04
725 When built 5/02
726 When built 4/02 8/28
727 When built 4/02
728 When built 8/02
729 When built 4/02 8/28
730 When built 7/03
731 When built 6/02
732 When built 11/02
773/733 When built 10/06

For the sake of simplicity, only Southern Railway numbers are used in this table.
Tender N° Loco number & date attached
180 726 by and from 27/11/36
195 313 from 3/6/49
207 281 by and from 1/11/35
213 282 by and from 18/12/36
216 303 by and from 30/5/36 340 from 1/9/47
217 704 by and from 4/10/35
219 729 by and from 6/3/37
270 702 by and from 28/2/36
271 703 by and from 25/10/35
273 705 by and from 19/3/37
274 706 by and from 18/12/36 719 from 9/4/60
275 707 by and from 9/8/35
276 708 by and from 13/7/35
277 709 by and from 9/1/36
278 710 by and from 30/1/36
279 711 by and from 3/2/36 724 from 21/9/46
280 712 by and from 28/10/36
281 283 by and from 24/9/36
282 714 by and from 6/11/36
283 715 by and from 8/1/37
284 716 by and from 30/7/36
285 717 by and from 1/11/35 725 from ?/1/48
286 718 by and from 5/9/35 713 from 2/8/47
287 719 by and from 23/10/36
288 721 by and from 27/9/35
289 722 by and from 20/2/36 711 from 30/6/47
290 723 by and from 14/2/36
291 724 by and from 2/8/35 711 from 30/9/46 722 from 30/6/47
292 725 by and from 4/12/36 717 from between 20/10/45 & 15/3/49
293 713 and from 30/8/35 718 from 2/8/47
294 727 and from 26/9/35
297 730 and from 22/10/35
295 728 and from 16/9/35 120 ?
297 310 from 14/11/57
299 732 from ?
300 733 by and from 29/12/36
301 113 by and from 28/9/35
302 114 by and from 28/5/36
303 115 by and from 23/8/35
304 116 by and from 19/8/36 284 from 19/1/52
305 117 by and from 31/12/35
306 118 by and from 24/8/35
307 119 by and from 21/1/37 285 from 30/5/53
308 120 ?
309 ?
310 ?
315 284 by and from 1/11/35
316 285 by and from 20/7/36
317 286 by and from 25/11/35 288 from 10/9/36
318 287 by and from 18/5/36
320 289 by and from 3/4/36
321 302 by and from 6/7/35
323 305 by and from 17/7/37
324 337 by and from 10/9/36
325 338 by and from 28/8/36
326 300 by and from 21/8/35
327 301 by and from 26/7/35
328 304 by and from 19/3/36
329 307 by and from 11/12/35
330 310 by and from 16/1/37
331 311 by and from 19/7/35
332 312 by and from 21/10/35
333 313 by and from 27/6/36
334 314 by and from 24/7/36
335 336 by and from 22/10/37
342 by and from 314 from 1/9/47
2703 729 from 21/8/54
2710 707 from 19/9/55
2727 726 f30/6/47

Please note, this article only touches on the complexity of this subject and for more in-depth information you are recommended to read one of the many excellent books on the subject, e.g.The Book of the T9 4-4-0s, Richard Derry, Irwell Press ISBN 978-1-906919-12-2, from where much of the information on this page was gleaned.

This page was created 30 December 2009

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