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LBSCR J class 4-6-2T

photograph: Mike Morant collection.

N°2325 Abergavenny outside New Cross Gate MPD in 1938.

Marsh's very elegant "J" Class pacific tank was a class of just two locomotives, born out of the very unsuccessful I4 class. In fact the first of the pair, N°325 Abergavenny, was originally intended to be an I4, N°36, and had this number stamped on the parts of the motion.

This 4-6-2 express tank, which emerged from the workshops in 1910, was unlike any Brighton locomotive beforehand and was fitted with inclined outside cylinders, as on his Atlantics. The 6' 7½" diameter driving wheels, a large boiler with 170lb pressure, a bunker holding 3 tons of coal and tanks that held 2,300 gallons of water all contributed to making it the largest express passenger tank locomotive then built for the LBSCR (until L Billinton's Baltic tank of 1914), weighing in at some 86 tons in working order.

The second engine of class J was not built until 1912, after Marsh's departure from the LBSCR, and was N°326 Bessborough, though originally she was to have been named Grosvenor. (This latter name was subsequently used for one of the Pullman cars operating on the LBSCR). N°326 was not identical to N°325 in that she had outside Walschaerts valve gear and reduced capacity tanks holding just 1,989 gallons.

Both engines earned their living working the heaviest Pullman trains on the main line but in later years, in the twilight years of the Southern Railway, found themselves based at Tunbridge Wells working traffic on that line and the Oxted Line.

Both locomotives had alterations to them during their working lives, Bessborough's cab was altered in 1913 and after the grouping the chimney and dome of each locomotive were cut down to fit the new Southern Railway's loading gauge. This was done quite aesthetically, which is more than can be said for the treatment meted out to some other es-LBSCR locomotives! Both engines lasted into early BR ownership, being withdrawn in June 1951.

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  • 2325
    Wandsworth
    N°3235 Abergavenny passes Wandsworth Common in Southern Railway days.
    Photograph: Mike Morant collection.
  • 2326
     
    N°2326 Bessborough on a humble working! Note that as well as some unsupported cable there is the wooden trunking on concrete posts that carried the cables before the advent of concrete trunking positioned in the ground.
    Photograph: Mike Morant collection.
  • 3236
    Eastleigh
    N°3236 Bessborough at Eastleigh Works during April 1934. Note the difference in the valve gear when compared with Abergavenny in the next photo. There is also an interesting view of the front end of a detached tender on the right.
    Photograph: Mike Morant collection.
  • 32325
     
    Bearing her new number but no crest, N°32325 Abergavenny is seen in early British Railways days with "Birdcage" stock on a secondary passenger working.
    Photograph: Mike Morant collection.

Technical Details

Introduced:
Driving Wheel:
Total Weight:
Water Capacity:
Cylinders (2):
Boiler Pressure:
Tractive Effort:
Coal Capacity:
December 1910
6 ft 7½ ins
86 tons
1,989/2,300 gals
20 in x 26 in
170 lb sq in
18,900 lb
3 tons

Data

LBSC N° SR N° # BR N° Built Name Withdrawn
325 2325 32325 Dec 1910 Abergavenny Jun 1951
326 2326 32326 Mar 1912 Bessborough Jun 1951
# Between 1923 and 1928 SR numbers were the LBSC numbers with the added prefix 'B'

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